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26 January 2013

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Monkizio

...So eloquently put Matt A. Prince ,please note..theres a whole new generation out here, deprived of real music.B their educator, surely U don't underestimate yr ability 2 do so....We await , with anticipation yr consideration . Resectfully and sincerely Katya.

Troy Gua

Beautifully written - thank u.

NO1

U should add a illegal audio file - otherwise U'll B ignored ;-)

Markus Bonten

It speaks out of my heart and soul.....Thank U...

Erikhumstad

Well said, and what about DVD`S from your concerts, I know everyone is taped. We want accsess to these as well. I would happily pay for HQ dvd`s of your performances.

Mark

How do we know he's upset?

Matt A.

"Mark,"

You're joking, right?

We're talking about a man who has waged war on bootleggers for over 30 years. At one of the One Nite Alone soundchecks I attended in Detroit, he half-jokingly told a fan, "Hmmm, you look like a bootlegger."

It's a well-known fact that Prince hates bootleggers. That's why, by his own admission, he has a team of lawyers scouring YouTube to take down any and everything they see. That's also why he has a "no recording devices" policy. No cameras, no recorders, nothing. He even said in the Billboard interview that he won't let people record his voice because some people have sold it in the past.

If you don't think he's upset that all six Dakota shows were recorded, in spite of the no cellphones policy, you're incredibly naive.

Azifikare

AMEN!!!

C. K. Dexter Haven

"over 600 unreleased tracks" do you think you might want to create a list of all those track names? It would seem that you have every one of the 400 tracks listed as unreleased at PV and then a couple hundred more. Would love to know the names of the songs not listed at PV and some sort of description! Dying to know what Katrina's Paper Dolls sounds like!

Matt A.

CK,

Are you taking into account the fact that many of those 400 tracks have multiple versions? There are 10 or 11 versions of "We Can Funk" circulating alone, if memory serves.

I actually just did a quick tally on my iPod, which shows how many tracks are in each "album," and the final count is 615 - but like I said, that includes multiple versions of the same songs. There are a few TECHNICALLY released tracks in there too, such as "Joy In Repetition" since it runs into "The Ball" and I kept it for the sake of being able to play the songs back-to-back as intended, even though it's no different from the version that appeared on Graffiti Bridge.

C. K. Dexter Haven

Ah, yes there are multiple versions of the same song. The Work It 2 set was approximately 587 songs. So throw in some new stuff since then, yeah I can see how it easily can top 600.

So everything you are talking about is the stuff in common circulation. Not the stuff that is known, but not know to be in circulation, such as Katrina.

Matt A.

Exactly. In fact, the majority of my collection came from the Work It set. We had a house fire in 2009 that destroyed all the original CDs and tapes, but that set replaced it all in one swift stroke.

There's also a few other duplicates in there, like two versions of "Moonbeam Levels" because, for some reason, bootleggers love to clip the fade-out/fade-in ending off. So I have one version in really crappy quality off an old vinyl that has the whole ending, and one in much better quality without it. And there are the versions of "Come" and "Race" the set left off, for some reason, even though they were released on some Moonraker/Thunderball boots a while ago.

I'm not really the type of person to brag about having outtakes I can't or won't trade with anybody. I hate that attitude. :)

Reverend

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and slightly stick up for P in this regard. As much as I hope to hear loads more out takes from the 80s, I can understand P not wanting to have absolutely everything he's ever recorded put out there.

Say you're a musician/artist or other form of creative and you've sketched an idea out in rough which later goes on to evolve into a piece of work you consider finished - why should it be necessary to release the early drafts as well? Why should someone have to release work they consider redundant and not up to scratch?

Yes, a lot of his early out takes are better than what he currently deams fit to release officially, but surely it's an artist's prerogative as to what he does or doesn't release. We can all wish that he'd release *favourite-out-take-here*, but we shouldn't think it's something he should do as a matter of principal, or as a business decision in order to thwart bootleggers making money off of his music.

Again, I'd love nothing more than for P to put out the Roadhouse Garden album of Revolution era out takes in their original, unaltered state, but I don't see it as something he should be obliged to do for his fans.

Matt A.

Zanna,

I agree he shouldn't be obliged to release anything, however, he complains about bootleggers taking money out of his pockets, then does nothing to correct it, except maybe go after fansites. We're not just talking about outtakes, but live shows. He could blow Eye Records' Dakota set out of the water right now by releasing those shows. He even had 3rdEyeGirl tweet about walking out with a soundboard copy of the first show which seems like a big F.U. to the fans to me.

But instead, he'll complain about bootleggers and fans are forced to get the material through other means.

I know we'll never see the inside of his vault, but my point was that even if he WERE to release 10 different versions of a song, diehards would pay for it.

Moogie

I strongly believe Prince edited Crystal Ball 98, at least those songs we already had, in order to remove Warner Bros Records claiming it as something they own.

If for example Prince would of placed Crucial with Eric Leeds horn part and solo AND the guitar solo version, complete as original, WB would of had to claim it as work done under contract.

Editing them up, probably removed that claim.

Prince doesn't discuss his past work not becuase of the pretext of old work, but because one, he's a Jehovah W. and old work contains a lot of nasty content, two, it would benefit WB records if he did, people would not seek his new work, which he would rather sell.

Aside from that, Prince does NOT care what fans think in any way, thats a myth.

Matt A.

Songs that were recorded during his time with Warner Bros. Records are not owned by them. All Warners owns are the master tapes to material they released. Many of the songs on 'Emancipation', for example, were recorded while he was still under contract and "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" is the same version recorded more than a decade earlier and circulating in terrible quality amongst fans. There are also songs on 'Crystal Ball' that weren't changed, such as "Crystal Ball" itself, which was one of several versions circulating, and "Last Heart".

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